D.C. police are becoming increasingly alarmed over an illegal device called a giggle switch that can turn a semiautomatic pistol into a fully automatic machine gun.
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D.C. police are becoming increasingly alarmed over an illegal device called a giggle switch that can turn a semiautomatic pistol into a fully automatic machine gun.
In recent weeks, officers have found as many as five of them on the backs of pistols in two neighborhoods in Northeast.
Customs and USPS have been hitting those hard when they hit land, been doing it for more than a few years. Coat hangars that are 3d printed DIAS...you can't stop the signal but they sure try.
If enough folks WANT full auto they will get it. Laws do not prevent ANYTHING. Personally a full auto pistol is about the dumbest thing I have ever seen.
These have been around for a long time - just making news now since they show up in the gang shootings and guns picked up by police. Still aganst the law if not properly papered. so we need more laws to make them more illegal.
Personally I'd rather see the gangbangers waste all their ammo in a couple seconds with a weapon that sprays them up more than around. Full-auto pistols like that are very difficult to control unless you're experienced. The demonstration by the ATF agent was misleading because he's trained on full-autos. Your average punk in a lowered Chevy doesn't have a clue how to control it.
OH COMEON NOW!
If it's lowered with little tires it's a CHEBBY...
On the left we have a 72 el Camino 383 stroker-----------on the right is an 84 el camino 4.3l v6 full hydraulics 400 lbs.
560 Hp. Sub 10 sec quarter mile NOT a CHEBBY ------ of batteries can barely clear a Marlboro hard pack. "A CHEBBY"
The name giggle switch is the biggest reason it is getting attention now along with the gun grab politics. Sort of like polar vortex a few years ago. Give anything a flashy name and the media will jump all over it.
Considering that most modern semi-auto handguns are essentially copies of the Glock nowadays this switch could probably be made in versions to fit virtually anything. If that doesn't give ATF a panic attack I don't know what else would. They had previously ruled that any firearm that can be easily converted to full-auto was a machine gun, so what are they going to do now? Ban ALL striker-fired semi-auto handguns?
Actually, it's fssg. Been around since'87. Little lever trips the trigger bar, when the slide returns to battery. Only takes a few mags for an experienced shooter to learn to fire short, controllable bursts.
Gun laws don’t eliminate devices such as these, they only criminalize their possession.
“It’s a big problem; it’s a huge problem,” D.C. police Cmdr. Ramey Kyle said. “You know, guns are inherently dangerous, and with these switches, that’s magnified 10, 20 times.”
This was a local arrest last month. It was just across the river in Rock Island, IL, a state that has so many Draconian firearm laws, and none of them work. See if you can catch the "manual reloading" misinformation.
Most governments have developed machine-pistols at one time or another. In WWI, we developed a full-auto 1911 with 50-round drum for pilots/navigators to use for defense before the planes were fitted with machine-guns. During the early war which was the first widespread use of the airplane in war, there was an air of chivalry among the pilots of the warring nations who usually waved at each other. Before long, though, pistols began to be used and the situation rapidly spiraled up to fully-armed combat aircraft having dogfights.
Glock has been making machine-pistols from day one, some with a little folding fore-grip.
As far as I know, the WW1 Aviator 1911 was semi-auto with an extended stick magazine (see pic). The first full auto 1911's I've heard of were the Lebman conversions of the late 20's.
Glock does make the full-auto G18, but very few were ever sold to private citizens before the Hughes Amendment in 1986 banned new full-autos except to LE and dealers. Glock was careful to make the parts on the G18 to slightly different dimensions, so that a Glock 17 slide won't fit a G18 frame and vice-versa. As a result you can't easily convert a G17 to fire full-auto, or at least you couldn't before this so-called "giggle switch" came out.
I've never had a chance to shoot a real machine gun, and in my state they're illegal anyway, but I have shot some of the full-auto BB guns currently on the market. It's probably the same story as with the real ones... very fun for the first couple of minutes as you hose down targets with a single mag, then after awhile it gets boring and you realize you're just wasting ammo. If full-auto firearms were legal in WA and not priced so that only rich people can afford them I'd almost certainly have one, but I can say with confidence that the go-fast setting would hardly ever be used.
I mean full auto pistols properly designed is less than rifle but more than gimmick. I didn't necessarily adore APS but didn't consider it a total piece of garbage either it had its uses. The whole gigle switches and bump stocks and what not to me are ways to circumvent the law on the books throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks. Instead of stress testing the law how about we start electing politicians to change the law. If we want select fires back on civilian market let's over turn the law on the books and clarify whole bunch of other ill written laws in the process and do it the right way instead of playing games with ATF. I mean it does actually require a politician who wants to represent the people vs peacocking in the halls of power, but that's a different story.
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